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Post by igor on Feb 14, 2015 14:44:34 GMT -5
 Joseph (I forgot to ask this in the video) - Was there any of chance of me staying had I voted Jared like you asked me? |
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Post by dylan on Feb 14, 2015 15:14:53 GMT -5
Igor. I hope you can stand to listen to my voice just a little bit longer. You contradicted yourself and Eric's game in your video. Just pointing out some things you need to be aware of. Also, thanks for pointing out the life long thing that I've had to deal with. My voice. Ty also made fun of my voice to Santiago. You don't think I hate it?! You don't think I wish I could have changed it? I have long since awaited a second puberty. But guess what, my voice didn't drop any deeper. it sucks. But it sucks a million times worse being reminded of it by other people. It shows just how little your mind view is.
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Post by igor on Feb 14, 2015 15:30:19 GMT -5
I frankly don't give a shit, it wasn't meant to be a personal attack. Don't try to play the victim. It was me saying how annoying you were to talk game or anything with. Further showing your weak social game. I think your move to take out jared was moronic. I don't have sympothy for you, you're in F3. I'm in the jury. You whining and claiming to be in the minority and bitching about your struggle got old real quick, as I was in the bottom of this game the entire fucking time and you frankly had a smooth ride.
Eric's jury management was a lot cleaner than all of yours. You think you played the sides better? You have left a bunch of people with a bad taste in their mouths. It's not a game about voting people out, it's a game about not getting voted out. He understands the most important part of the game that you ignored:
It doesn't matter if you're in the end. It doesn't matter if you aced comps or flip flopped or whatever you did. What matters is getting to the end and being able to get a majority of the jury votes. He didn't act like a dick to people, treated people with respect, and that's enough to get my vote.
You're pandering on Skype isn't helping your case either. I'm in the jury, I can't talk to you outside of the game. As you shouldn't be trying to talk to me outside of the game. This isn't about your voice, so stop. This is about your game and how I felt about your social game. This is reminicent of how you played the game.
Like a rat.
You scrambled and went on call with everyone before the vote, and you wonder why people have had a bad taste in their mouths? Because you're so full of bullshit, it's coming out of your ears. You wonder why we have a bad taste in our mouth? Because we can see that we were just pieces you were moving around and not people.
Eric treated me like a person. Eric talked about life with me man. Eric never said anything bad about people maliciously, he wasn't involved in drama. I felt like he wasn't talking to me because he had to, but that he wanted to. I can't say the same for you or Joseph.
How you treat people matters.
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Fuck You
Feb 14, 2015 15:49:37 GMT -5
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Post by dylan on Feb 14, 2015 15:49:37 GMT -5
I treated people with respect and got to know them as well. I got to know people outside of this game. CATIE, jared, Santiago, Cody, patrick, Amanda, when they gave me the same in return. Just because you were on original himera and I was on original tarentum doesn't mean you know how I treated people. Nor do I know how you treated people. But I also played the game to win. I knew several people would have beaten me if they reached the end. I didn't treat people like chess pieces whether or not that is felt by you or other people can't be helped. Eric never had to worry about jury management because he was on the bottom. That's why people love the underdogs. They get an excuse to vote their allies out. I was at the top of tarentum and have no 'excuse' to vote out my own allies. But I had to in order to make the end. That makes me a villain arc and Eric a hero arc. But that does not give him the 'better survivor game'. He was weak. Had no power. Tried to utilize the little amount he had and even then it didn't work sans the Santiago vote. Eric tried to cause moves but joseph and I saw right through them.
I'm sorry that I took your whining statement straight to my voice but that's how it came off to me. I've had to deal with ignorance and peoples opinions of it for too long. I may have come to quick judgements about it but it also shouldn't be brought up in the context that you presented it.
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Post by igor on Feb 14, 2015 15:51:27 GMT -5
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Post by igor on Feb 14, 2015 16:12:49 GMT -5
Congrats, you made it to the end as the biggest scumbag!
You and I have different ways of looking at Survivor. I'm going to vote for someone that I like and that isn't bullshitting in their FTC speech. I mean you can't expect someone's vote if they dislike you..I know I'm not the only one with this feeling. I don't think you're good at looking at things from other people's shoes. Plus you keeping Joseph over Jared was absurd and I hope you get punished for it.
I'm not going to reward someone that constantly bullshitted me and fucked me over in the game.
It's like me punching you in the face and then being like. "Hey man, I know I punched you in the face and all, but can we hug it out?
Anyways, I'm done with you Dylan.
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Post by dylan on Feb 14, 2015 16:17:34 GMT -5
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Post by josephmur on Feb 14, 2015 18:57:33 GMT -5
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Post by igor on Feb 15, 2015 14:37:13 GMT -5
Joseph, thanks for your answer. I respect you being straight up. Eric's situation is unfortunate, but I can't give him my vote if he can't do the last challenge. I hope things go well for him at his job.
I came into this tribal thinking there was no chance that you were getting my vote. But the more you talked the more swayed I've become. I don't think you're an asshole or didn't care about people. I think you carried me as far as you could, and I made my own bed.
I never once suspected you had the idol, nobody did. The fact that you pulled it out at the end is a big statement to how much awareness/control you had. With the way things were playing out, you should have been 100% gone at F4. But the fact that you caused a tie vote, knowing you had a good chance to win the challenge I can respect. You hustled in the end and fought your way to be here. Your ride was never smooth. When patrick/bailey went that could have easily been you.
I totally get why you didn't tell me about the vote. You got that spot on, I wouldn't have laid down and took out. I would have fought and scrambled hard.
I said Survivor isn't a game about voting people out, it's a game about not being voted out. And you did just did, each round to make sure it wasn't you. You tried to save your allies when you could, but when they fucked themselves over you had no choice but to chose your game or your allies, and you made the right choice.
I can tip my hat to a good UTR game, you got it.
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Post by igor on Feb 15, 2015 14:46:54 GMT -5
 I'm sold. When your competition is rooting for you, you know you are doing something right. Well played Joseph. You deserve this. |
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Post by dylan on Feb 15, 2015 14:55:55 GMT -5
More than Eric. Both joseph and I believe that as long as one of us wins, we will both be happy. Obviously both of us would like the win ourself. Tadeo explicitly said that I was runner up. So of course I'm going to give the win to joseph. You're really good at distorting things out of context.
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Post by igor on Feb 15, 2015 15:11:36 GMT -5
Your actions reveal your thoughts. Joseph has been fighting hard for every jury vote, he knows he's not entitled to anything and is fighting, he's not ready to give up 1st place. Hell, I'm sure he doesn't want you winning it. His answers have been on point man. Joseph had his own brain this game. His ride was harder than yours, and he adapted actively, which was a point he made that really sold me. I have a hard time believing you would have ever turned on Santiago. Get off his dick homie. You were comfortable as shit for the longest time, don't try to say your ride was harder than Joseph's. You started playing when you're sugar daddy was gone. Joseph was playing since the beginning of the game. Your piece of jewelry is in the fire, yet he stands here with it around his neck. He had a hard ride, yet he still managed to prove his strong grasp of the game at all times.
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Post by dylan on Feb 15, 2015 15:35:06 GMT -5
I was always playing. My ride might not be considered as 'rough' at the premerge because we didn't go to TC but that didn't mean I wasn't playing. How do you think I got into the position 'of being comfortable' I was in? It's because of my social game. Both joseph and I are trying to win people's votes over. I had a strong grasp on the game. Many people are not giving me a chance to even sway them and convince them. You, Cody, and possibly tadeo are not even giving me a 1% chance of trying to earn your votes. But I'm still addressing points because I'm trying to win. So don't say that I'm not trying to earn my votes.  |
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Post by igor on Feb 15, 2015 15:45:52 GMT -5
Well my ride was.
I'm giving you as much time as you gave me, except I'm not pretending to listen like you did. I'm straight up telling you. If I thought you played the best game you'd have my vote.
Sorry Dylan, I forget only you can be right. My opinion is clearly invalid because it doesn't involve voting you.
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Post by dylan on Feb 15, 2015 15:53:12 GMT -5
Well my ride was. I'm giving you as much time as you gave me, except I'm not pretending to listen like you did. I'm straight up telling you. If I thought you played the best game you'd have my vote. Sorry Dylan, I forget only you can be right. My opinion is clearly invalid because it doesn't involve voting you.  Yes, clearly that is the point I'm trying to make. |
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